trafficking and has allowed it for one reason or another. 9/11, the al qaeda, telescan thing -- the taliban thing, and now this is a big media thing with it spilling over our borders. it's 2011. we have the technology. we need to secure our borders. beating around the bush is not the problem. it is a south american issue. it is an issue for us. we have to do something about it. host: what is the next chapter when it comes too fast and furious? guest: the next chapter will be the conclusion or the corporate progress of the congressional investigation and the department of justice's and inspector general's report. once these come out and conclude i think we will have a very accurate picture of what fast and furious was all about. there are a lot of blanks that are not filled in yet and i would really caution everyone calling in viewing this show to not rush to judgment on this. do i have told my sources that there are more indictments coming down in this case has not entirely played out yet. there will be higher ups and it will not just be a question of straw purchasers, the smaller fish. the